Post-punk band Protomartyr was nearly wiped out by the COVID-19 pandemic.
โIf we couldnโt go back touring, we wouldnโt have been making any money off of this,โ said vocalist Joe Casey during a recent phone interview. โWe make very little money off this band, so to make even less would have not been feasible. The band wouldโve ended.โ
Thankfully, shorter-form touring became possible just in time, as the entertainment industry slowly built its way back to how things were pre-pandemic. Now, Protomartyr is on its longest run yet, including a stop at the Holland Project on Saturday, March 25.
The band is touring in support of 2020 release Ultimate Success Today. Finally being able to do a full tour cycle for a nearly 3-year-old album has been nothing short of โweird,โ Casey said.
โIt was late 2021 when we went out for the first time, over a year after it came out,โ Casey said. โIt was weird, because we started touring right in the window between lots of people getting sick with COVID, so that was, like, a victory. โฆ We were lucky to get away scot-free on that little tour. Each tour has kind of been like that, where they get a little bit longer, but itโs always in the back of your head, like, โOK, this is gonna come back and get us.โ
โItโs great to be back on the road and be able to play some of the songs from the album, because I think we were all pretty proud of it, and we just didnโt feel like it got a fair shake.โ
Casey said the shorter tours were like being able to โdip your toe back in the pool.โ
โIf we would have done a month-long, coast-to-coast tour, we probably would have all got COVID. It would have been taxing after more than a year of just sitting on your ass, going and doing that,โ he said. โWeโd be like, โWhy are we doing this? This is killing us!โ These little two-, three-week tours are bite-size, so you donโt choke on it. โฆ I do feel like weโve had our sea legs back, and thatโs great.โ
Ultimate Success Today featured some notable collaborators, and the first tour for the album featured help from Kelley Deal, lead guitarist of the Breeders.
โIf weโre working on a new song, I like playing it in a live setting, because it helps me figure out a good cadence to sing it in,โ Casey said. โYou get a good gauge of whether itโs dead on arrival or not. โฆ With Ultimate Success Today, we had a lot of different collaborators, and thereโs no way we were going to re-create some of the jazz musicians and what they brought to the songs. A benefit was Kelley Deal being like, โOh, yeah, Iโll go on tour with you guys; I like touring.โ That changed the songs immensely with her additions. Sheโs not going to be able to go out on this tour, becauseโunfortunately for us, but fortunately for herโthe Breeders have some shows. When you canโt re-create the songs exactly how they are recorded, you just hope that you can inject them with some energy that maybe will carry over to a live setting.
โWe always end up playing the song slightly faster. I donโt know if thatโs because weโre bad at our job, or we just want to add some energy to it.โ
Protomartyrโs approach to songwriting has changed as the band members have agedโand become more realistic about their live-show capabilities.
โIโm sure Greg (Ahee), our guitar player, often thinks about what can be done in a live setting, and he kind of keeps his ambitions locked up a little bit, because he can probably picture, like, โOh, itโd be great to have a string section here, or 55 guitar overdubs,โโ Casey said. โI think every person like Greg who composes songs probably has that desire, but he keeps it (to himself) and is like, โIโve got to make sure that we can do it live.โ The band in general has gotten very good at figuring out what I can and cannot do. They can write songs to what I can sing. โฆ Iโve tried to simplify my writing style a little bit, and not make it so wordy all the time, because I have to remember all those damn words, and thatโs no good.โ
The band has enjoyed pulling from their back catalog on the recent tours.
โI always like songs from our first album (2012โs No Passion All Technique), just because the older I get, and the longer weโre a band, the more impressed I am that we were able to throw those together with such little talent,โ said Casey. โIโm impressed with the songwriting and all that, because I donโt remember doing it, and I donโt remember it being very good at the timeโbut some of them hold up. One I always like singing is โ3 Swallowsโ from the first record, because that one came effortlessly out of me at the time, and I was pretty surprised. Some of them I appreciate, but I do not ever want to sing again.โ
The pandemic caused Casey to experience a lot of existential feelings about the bandโand he is trying to shake off those feelings.
โIโve always tried to maintain that the future is not given, and to be appreciative of your current state,โ Casey said. โWhen this band started, I was the old guy at 35 or 36, and now 10 years later, the other band members have finally caught up to that age. I remember it seemed very odd to be in a band when I was that old. I thought I was old then; now I definitely am. You realize that youโre lucky to be here. Youโre lucky to be able to play places like Reno and have people actually show up. Thereโve been many times where Iโve been at a bar to grab a drink, and a band is playing to nobody โฆ and you feel really bad for them. That could easily have been us, or be us in the future, so we have to appreciate what weโve got going on, and that gives me hope for the future.โ
This tour will be one of the last outings in support of Ultimate Success Today. Moving forward, the band intends to shake things up.
โAfter five records, you want to be able to not be stuck; you want the future to be wide open,โ Casey said. โ… Getting back together in the room and working on new stuff, it felt good. Sometimes it can feel bad, and you feel like youโre trying to force it. The minute youโre like, โOh, weโve got to write a Protomartyr-esque song,โ then youโre fucked. Weโre getting through that and leaving the future open to whatever we sound like after thisโand weโre lucky to be back together and enjoying each otherโs company and playing together. โฆ To get back touring and recording again was not a given, but Iโm glad itโs there.โ
Protomartyr will perform with DEFEM and Spitting Image at 7 p.m., Saturday, March 25, at the Holland Project, 140 Vesta St., in Reno. Advance tickets are $18. For more information, call 775-448-6500, or visit hollandreno.org.
